Comments on: Welcome To The Airport VIP Lounge, Please Grab Snacks And Leave https://www.godsavethepoints.com/airport-vip-lounge-please-grab-your-snacks-and-leave/ Elevating your travel Mon, 29 May 2023 19:05:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3 By: Scott https://www.godsavethepoints.com/airport-vip-lounge-please-grab-your-snacks-and-leave/#comment-277680 Mon, 29 May 2023 19:05:12 +0000 https://www.godsavethepoints.com/?p=49487#comment-277680 Hi, The main issue is that “deregulation” of airlines has led to pushing the hub-and-spoke logistics model beyond efficiency. All would be fine if there were “slack resources” (i.e., reserve aircraft, staff and airport “slots”), but yield management has been taken to the extreme of almost zero slack resources. Those have led to the current frustrations: A) This “lean model” approach now has come to mean a non-redundant, fragile air transport system. If there is a problem at any point the the national network, the delays leads to a cascading collapse of the fine-tuned orchestration at hubs. B) The hubs are now so big that the flows of people, cargo and aircraft can be highly inefficient. The current system obliges passengers to and from smaller airports with smaller markets and runways to pass through a hub; that makes sense if there is a real net lower cost for the airlines (less fuel, fewer staff, fewer aircraft, and a mix of aircraft so that the load factor on each leg is profitable). Now, one dreads making a connection. It’s even worse for international incoming flights as one is obliged to process border control and customs physically, then, for lack of specifically designed “secure space” airport pathways, once again go though security at the domestic terminal. B) Chasing the marginal penny on profits. Between the increasing cost of logistic inefficiency, fuel, staff, aircraft and hub operations, AND, outdated airport designs, the reaction of airline bean-counters is to “de-bundle” into a litany of fees. It is deliberate approach to hamper price comparison, and anti-competitive.

For a weary passenger like me, I basically avoid air-travel in favor of virtual presence. If I have to travel far, I give myself extra time for unfamiliar airports, and choose less crowded timetables. I even prefer to an overnight hotel if there is a very long trip such as ATL-DUB//DUB-PER (Atlanta to Perth via DUB).
The passenger space is now unacceptable for most adult males who are not obese. Airlines have skirted the effect on health and on inability to evaculate passengers quickly by using only fit volunteers with no baggage to rehearse over and over to keep within the 90 second evacuation rule. Yet, 60%+ of US passengers are overweight, 30%+ are clinically obese, and many have mobility issues; in a real-world crisis, it would take many more minutes to evacuate.
The only hope on the horizon has been started by David Neeleman, the Brazilo-American co-founder of several upstart airlines (WestJet, JetBlue, Azul), and who launched a new airline, Breeze Airways, during the pandemic with a deliberate model of point-to-point medium city airports, using the most efficient aircraft of “regional jets”, i.e., the A220. The A220 not only has shorter runway needs, and fuel efficiency unrivalled in its sector, but it also has the WIDEST economy seat design in the world with its 3×2 seating configuration.

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By: QFFlyer https://www.godsavethepoints.com/airport-vip-lounge-please-grab-your-snacks-and-leave/#comment-277039 Wed, 24 May 2023 09:32:47 +0000 https://www.godsavethepoints.com/?p=49487#comment-277039 I think this is on the money, especially in the US and lately the UK. Less so in Asia and Australia (although Qantas Clubs are a nightmare at some airports, domestic Business lounges and International First lounges are good).

Singapore is a good example of where it can work out, QF’s F Lounge is a decent size for OWE/First pax, QR’s lounge is J/F cabin only, SQ separate SilverKris (J/F Pax) and Krisflyer Gold (Y pax with status). The BA lounge at SIN I hate, other than the Concorde Bar.

I’m Oneworld Emerald (via Qantas), but usually fly J (rather than F), so access to F lounges via status is something I value highly, and I doubt I’d bother pushing for it over Sapphire without that benefit.

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By: Mike https://www.godsavethepoints.com/airport-vip-lounge-please-grab-your-snacks-and-leave/#comment-276691 Mon, 22 May 2023 09:08:20 +0000 https://www.godsavethepoints.com/?p=49487#comment-276691 In reply to Adam.

To be fair (probably too fair) to Manchester was wholly owned by the councils of Greater Manchester who wouldn’t allow any substantial capital investment. It’s now part owned by a private company (the rest is still with the councils), and seems to be getting (some) investment (T2). However, until T1 and T3 are piles of rubble I personally don’t think they’ll lose the well deserved reputation for crapness.

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By: Adam https://www.godsavethepoints.com/airport-vip-lounge-please-grab-your-snacks-and-leave/#comment-276677 Mon, 22 May 2023 06:54:45 +0000 https://www.godsavethepoints.com/?p=49487#comment-276677 Superb article and much enjoyed. Recently enjoyed the new Qatar lounge in Doha and it took my breath away. I think back to the worst I’ve ever experienced, Manchester (UK ) T1 in the middle of July…. doesn’t get continually voted worst airport in the UK for nothing.
Absolutely not a snobery article, remember you can’t please everyone!

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By: John https://www.godsavethepoints.com/airport-vip-lounge-please-grab-your-snacks-and-leave/#comment-276501 Sat, 20 May 2023 13:42:20 +0000 https://www.godsavethepoints.com/?p=49487#comment-276501 In reply to Clayton.

The BA lounges in Heathrow to be the most crowded lounge I’ve ever seen on every trip to the UK in the last year, far more than any lounge in the US. The Qatar lounges in Doha are nice but of late have been overcrowded. Nicest one I’ve been in lately is the American lounge in Santiago, Chile.

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By: Gilbert Ott https://www.godsavethepoints.com/airport-vip-lounge-please-grab-your-snacks-and-leave/#comment-276350 Thu, 18 May 2023 14:50:44 +0000 https://www.godsavethepoints.com/?p=49487#comment-276350 In reply to Sana.

I’m sorry if that’s true. I think it’s very difficult to not have “elitest” views when talking about spaces which were designed to be elite in some form. That doesn’t mean they were only for the “elite” whatever that means, but for people who either spend a lot or fly a lot. These spaces were never designed to be things of the people, by the people, for the people.

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By: James B https://www.godsavethepoints.com/airport-vip-lounge-please-grab-your-snacks-and-leave/#comment-276327 Thu, 18 May 2023 09:40:31 +0000 https://www.godsavethepoints.com/?p=49487#comment-276327 Could’nt agree more! My recent experience at LGW, the ‘free’ orange juice at the breakfast buffet was dyed yellow water – it had never seen an orange. My workaround was: I went to the bar, smiled politely and ordered Buck’s Fizz, but hold the Prosecco . The bar staff “I shouldn’t really do this…” but accommodated. So I got good fresh OJ, as I wanted.

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By: Sana https://www.godsavethepoints.com/airport-vip-lounge-please-grab-your-snacks-and-leave/#comment-275933 Sat, 13 May 2023 08:27:45 +0000 https://www.godsavethepoints.com/?p=49487#comment-275933 Your tone comes across as extremely elitist and quite obnoxious in this article. You may have a valid point regarding overcrowding and undeserving but it’s been diluted with the snobbery, unfortunately.

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By: Jennifer Browne https://www.godsavethepoints.com/airport-vip-lounge-please-grab-your-snacks-and-leave/#comment-275914 Sat, 13 May 2023 05:08:33 +0000 https://www.godsavethepoints.com/?p=49487#comment-275914 The Delta lounges are great and I enjoy them. I have not had to wait in line anywhere and I travel often. This article is just a load of class warfare nonsense.

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By: Tim https://www.godsavethepoints.com/airport-vip-lounge-please-grab-your-snacks-and-leave/#comment-275864 Fri, 12 May 2023 20:11:46 +0000 https://www.godsavethepoints.com/?p=49487#comment-275864 BA gave “free” lounge access as part of their package holidays after Covid so the amount of screaming kids with their drunken parents skyrocketed… Other package holiday companies have been doing the same and usually in the smaller airports there’s only one or two lounges shared.

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